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Lorez,I read the story of Eva,and I was deeply hurt.She was a beautiful girl.When I get on my knees tonight, I will pray for her family.I am sure her murders were prosecuted to the full extent of the law in which they should have been.What you don't seem to understand that this type of behavior has for centuries been perpetrated against blacks in the form of beatings,hangings,and shootings.Many of these methods still happen today with the same old racial overtone.All murder is wrong.This behavior toward blacks is systematical.Black on white crime is sporadic.Remember,in 2010 the hanging of a black man in Greenwood,Ms just ten miles from Money Ms,where Emit Till was hanged.Just a few days ago the murders of three blacks by two whites.The two sisters in Greenwood Ms that were given life sentences for an allege eleven dollars robbery.Mississippians should be outraged.This is not justice and equality.
Freedom for Blacks should have taken precedent over saving the union.A man's freedom is the most important thing in life.Just like whites thought they were superior to blacks during that time,that same old spirit is prevalent and prevailing today.Lincoln's reason might have been to save the union,but Booth and the rest, were to preserve the union of slavery, and this is why Lincoln lost his life.Martin Luther king,Medgar Evers,John and Robert Kennedy,lost their lives for racial justice and equality.This is the equality of which I have been elaborating."We hold these truths to be self-evident,that all men are created equal".When all men are created equal,nobody is superior and nobody is inferior.There is no racial profiling,no hanging,no crack cocaine vs power cocaine long sentences for blacks,no longer sentences for blacks than whites for the same crimes,no better public education and medical care for whites than blacks,and the same police protection that whites have.Until then, we will continue to sing that old Negro Hymn,"We Shall Overcome.
I would save the Union. I would save it the shortest way under the Constitution. The sooner the national authority can be restored; the nearer the Union will be "the Union as it was." If there be those who would not save the Union, unless they could at the same time save slavery, I do not agree with them. If there be those who would not save the Union unless they could at the same time destroy slavery, I do not agree with them. My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that. What I do about slavery, and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union; and what I forbear, I forbear because I do not believe it would help to save the Union. I shall do less whenever I shall believe what I am doing hurts the cause, and I shall do more whenever I shall believe doing more will help the cause. I shall try to correct errors when shown to be errors; and I shall adopt new views so fast as they shall appear to be true views. I have here stated my purpose according to my view of official duty; and I intend no modification of my oft-expressed personal wish that all men everywhere could be free. Quote by President Abraham Lincoln
I guess I missed the part where you explained equality. Could you refresh my memory? I am getting old you know.
There is not enough evidence to arrest George Zimmerman. If there was, he would be arrested. Maybe something during the investigation will turn up to arrest him. George states he will turn himself in when they want to arrest him.
My friend, I'm not going to explain to you again what I meant by equality.Anybody who read my conversations can easily comprehend what I meant.The statements that I have made, need no clarifications.The civil war was fought over the issue of slavery.Mississippi was one of the states that felt the election of Abraham Lincoln was a threat to slavery.They(confederate states)did not want to let go slavery and jim crow.IN fact,if you know your history,Mississippi was the last state to give up jim crow.This is why Lincoln was assassinated.Booth hated Lincoln and hoped that his death would throw the union government into such a turmoil that the south would be inspired to win the war and keep slavery.Booth was an ardent supporter of slavery and felt the south should be left alone.There are some people that are ignorant to think they are superior and are entitled to rule over others and think that some people are still three-fifth's of what they are.I have already given my opinion about Zimmerman based on the information that I heard not know.He needs to be arrested at least for manslaughter.Arrested him and let a jury decide whether he innocent or guilt.
Back at your April 3rd posting you mentioned "equality". What do you mean when you say that? Is there such a thing? Can people be equal? Help me understand your take on the topic of equality. I need to know that so I can better understand what you are saying. Because Communism is all about equality. "From each according to their ability and to each is given according to their need." Neither one of us wants communism. Everyone's the same. If you work harder, smarter, better...you just get the same as a loser. It is not better for one to excel. The society crumbles because there is no incentive to better yourself.
I suppose you are opposed to the Confederate Battle Flag because of what the KKK has used it for. You mentioned "slavery, hangings and racism". Let me remind you that the KKK also carried the flag of the USA more times than the other flag and carried crosses (and burn them too). So if I have a cross in my yard or an American flag would I be a racist just like the KKK. See what you have done? You have listened to the wrong stuff. Robert E Lee freed his slaves in 1862. He didn't buy them. He inherited them. He didn't do it earlier because he was concerned with what would happen to them without a place to go. US Grant and WT Sherman didn't free their slaves until 1865. Abraham Lincoln only freed slaves in the CSA and NOT in the non-seceeding states. Do the research. It is all there if you just read the history. Read the records of the times. General Grant is stated as saying if the war was fought over slavery he would fought for the south. Lee said about the same in reverse (he was asked to be a general for the north) but that he was fighting because his home state was invaded by Northern troops to conquer it. He had no problem with freeing the slaves. But I degress. Feed on the records of history not the commentaries.
You stated: "There is very little that anybody can do about black on black crime because of all the racial and social injustice that have been instituted against blacks." That is as much as saying that white oppression and injustice makes blacks kill blacks. Would you like to reword that statement? The 911 call indicates that George was watching and maybe following Trayvon. They told him they didn't need him to do that. At some point, there seems to be indication that George went back towards his own car. Next we hear that Trayvon is on top of George beating the snot out of him and possibly going for his gun. You believe George should be in jail right now and yet a black acting police chief has not found enough evidence to go and arrest him even though George was handcuffed and taken in for questioning the night of killing. Anyone else can tell what they think from the evidence that is out there and no one else gets called a racist but me. You think Trayvon was attacked by Zimmerman or at least provoked by him. Is it because you are black and want to think that? The door swings both ways. If you were really not a racist, I suppose you would be content to have the police do the investigation and then see what happens. It wouldn't matter to you that blacks have been lynched in the past and Maybe just Maybe this is another angry white(?)man killing a black man because he just doesn't like blacks. This is so familiar. I love black people. I love all people. I hate it when people don't think through their narrow minded way of thinking and always bring up a racial connections to certain news stories. I don't even believe in RACE. It is a stupid word. People are people. There is a great diversity of people but all are people and created in the image of God. We all would be better off if we forgot the word RACE. It is a word that only divides us. I do not wake up each morning and think about what color I am. We are all of ONE BLOOD.
Lorez,You don't find anywhere in my conversations where I suggested that Zimmerman was guilty.I was not there and you were not there.I only presented the possibility of racial profiling and injustice.My question was,what prompted Zimmerman in the beginning to pursue him?It is a fact that Zimmerman pursued Martin.The 911 call confirms that Zimmerman was following him.Why can't you be honest?You find no place where I stated that black on black crime is white people fault.You said if Zimmerman is guilty,you wanted him arrested, and yet you say that the reason why Trayvon is dead is because he attacked Zimmerman.That sounds like racism and hypocrisy to me.Based on your statements,he should not be arrested because you know he attacked Zimmerman.WE don't know,we were not there.
You need to look in the mirror before you call me names. You are the one who has tried and convicted and sentenced George Zimmerman. You are the one who tells all of us why George Zimmerman did it. You are the one who tells us that even the black on black murders are "white people's" fault. It is not a FACT that George Zimmerman pursued Trayvon and there is an eyewitness that said Trayvon was on top of George Zimmerman beating him. Do you even know what the word hypocrite means? You call yourself an elder (leader in a church) and yet fail to live up simple Biblical and moral values. You place yourself as judge and jury of George Zimmerman. If he is guilty of any crime, I wanted him arrest too. But there just not enough evidence yet. If there was, the black acting police chief would have arrested him by now.
Lorez,don't be such a hypocrite and racist.How do you know the reason why Trayvon is dead? You were not there.You don't know that Trayvon attacked Zimmerman.Based on the fact that Zimmerman pursued Trayvon,it is likely that Zimmerman attacked Trayvon.
"The false notion that the Battle Flag must be a racist symbol is born of the mistaken belief that the Civil War was about slavery. This bit of propaganda has been repeated ever since President Lincoln and his political allies decided to “free the slaves” (in actuality Lincoln only freed those slaves in the Confederacy, slaves in Union states such as Maryland and West Virginia remained slaves). The truth, however, is plain to anyone who wishes to delve into the history, and the proof lies in the proposed Corwin Amendment of 1861. This amendment was proposed by Congressman Thomas Corwin (R) from Ohio and stated, 'No amendment shall be made to the Constitution which will authorize or give to Congress the power to abolish or interfere, within any State, with the domestic institutions thereof, including that of persons held to labor or service by the laws of said State.'" Taken from: http://12angrymen.wordpress.com/2007/05/01/the-true-meaning-of-the-confederate-flag/ Actually this person does not believe this flag should be flown publicly for another reason than racism. Read what he thinks. But I agree about the meaning of the Confederate Battle Flag. It was not the flag of the CSA. You can find the real CSA flags at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flags_of_the_Confederate_States_of_America
That is just not true.
Trayvon is just as good a name as any other. I would not have brought up the comment about his name.